I am back from this wedding in Exttremadura and just noticed the final results of the AMF Cup. A few different factors kept me away from the Tournaments. Job, wedding and mi left ankle, so I couldn't go to the bowling centers.
Handicap winners was the very young Oscar Serrano (Alyco). He, after defeating pacorro, Erwin Pascual and Mark Castillo on the final got this great victory. It only confirm that he is in shape and that is having an amazing begging of the season.
Despite this good news, the polemic come on the scratch scores. It is disgusting for us. It is because we have talked about it some days ago. And, especially, because one of the affected is William Medellin.
Williamd and Erwin tied after 12 games. Yes, it is bad luck, but shit happens. Who is the winner? Actually it seems it doesn't matter because the Organizing Committee, quoting the rules' final paragraph has decided that the winner of the trip to the Hermosillo World Cup is Erwin Pascual, because William has not yet the Spanish nationality.
The paragraph says: "Any aspect that cope up during the tournament that is not considered in this regulations will be clear up by the Organizing Committee"
What is this unconsidered aspect? On OCtober 11 we wrote in this blog:
Qualification round will continue during the week before next Sunday's big final. Scratch winners (six qualification gamesplus 6 finales games) both in men and women divisioon, will participate, according to the rules, at the Hermosillo World Cup next fall.
I just hace one doubt. Sules says that winners "will represent Spain". But, given that Catalonia will send players to the World Cup and that the World Cupt itself is a private event organised by aprivate brand, Spanish representation will be "unoficial".
I mean, given that it is supposed that no official License will be requiered and that AECB players will be allow to play as FCBB members are.
But I am not pretty sure. By the way, the Tournament Rules are talking about "representing Spain" but they don't say at all that the Spanish nationality is a must. Could foreign players represent Spain?
I think this is not the most important thing, but I am not sure about these answers. Anyway, the Tournament itself is good new. This kind of event shouldn't dissapear of our calendars.
And, as we were afriad of, it happened. William Medellin, player with Spanish nationality has tied with one (Erwin) Spaniard. Rules expains clearly the way to break the tie: that is, the minor difference between higher and lower game on all 12 games.
Right now final scores are not poste of the torunament's web site, but we think that William is the winner. He has a difference of 60 pins (198-259) and Erwin, if we are not wrong, has a high game over 260 and a lower game of 200.
At the bowling centers, some people said that makes sense that the winner should be Spaniard, and William is not yet. But... we really think that logic is not the most important this but the rules themselves.
In the past editions of this tournaments rules said, clearly, that Spanish nationality was a must. Not this time. It can be a mistake, yes. But given that the tournament is organised by a private brand, nationality is not a must. Or it shouldn't be.
It is a private event. A world one, yes, but private. It is not a FIQ.organized one so the same rules won't apply. It is under private law umbrella.
At the Football WorldChampionship National Teams compete and all the payers must have the nationality of the country. But, if we talk about a World Clubs Event, let's say, all the Real Madrid players are not Spaniards. As not are all Germans on the Bayer Munich. The hay instead the country's licence.
William lives and plays here and so has done for may years so my point is that he could repersent Spain. And the same apply for Serge Frouvelle. Actually, when I posted this on the blog I was thinking in him and the possibily of his winning. And in this case I wuld be deffending the same idea. A guy that plays every tourtnament in Spain can reppresent us worlwide. With or without passport.
if finally Williams is the winner we think it would be unfair and improper not giving him the credit and the price he deserves. If there is a mistake on the rules it's not his fault and shouldn't be punished for that. And, especially, with rude words.
Anyway, our compliments to Dulce, the atonishing female winner, and to Erwin. Winner or not he did a pretty good tournament and his final reaction today was impressive.
What do you think about it?
UPDATE
Tournament scores are already online and William is the winner.
martes, 28 de octubre de 2008
New Leagues in Madrid
We have just posted at LosRascadores.com a new banner with the info of the new Trios Leagues that Bolo 11 is prepairing in Madrid.
There are 4 different leagues with a common big final. The schedule is from Monday to Tuesday nights at 4 bowling centers: Rivas, Alegra, Plenilunio and Kinepolis.
You can read al the info clicking on the banner.
We like this leagues. Lately, in Spain we have plenty of "OPEN" tournaments, with high prices, but high entry price as well and they are not the best competition for begginers.
A weekly league that combine fun and learning can be the best way for news players to jooin our sport
Good luck with this project!
Spanish Doubles Championships (final results)
The winners in the Male's First Division were Juan Pablo Alonso and William Medellín. Runner-ups and team mates were Ballesteros and Barriopedro, after a big effort.
After 3 games they were ahead of Ocando and PAscul by 191 pins. But the Ilicitano couple finally woke up and arrieved to the final game far (80 pins) but with some chances.
Their performance was great, with 460 in the last game, so the Capital couple was forced to score 380 or over for taking the silver medal. They started bad but after 5 strikes in a rowe by Pablo with his infamous "Wizard" the were able of scoring over 400.
No news and no emotion in the girls division. Alejandra Sandoval and Dulce Fernández won the event. Virginia Esteban and Carmen Romero finished in second position.
The same happened in second and third divisions, with previous leaders capturing titles.
Generally speaking, the championships was kind of boring, becauase this format doesn't help when oe time is so ahead.
You can watch all the pictures and check the scores clicking here.
After 3 games they were ahead of Ocando and PAscul by 191 pins. But the Ilicitano couple finally woke up and arrieved to the final game far (80 pins) but with some chances.
Their performance was great, with 460 in the last game, so the Capital couple was forced to score 380 or over for taking the silver medal. They started bad but after 5 strikes in a rowe by Pablo with his infamous "Wizard" the were able of scoring over 400.
No news and no emotion in the girls division. Alejandra Sandoval and Dulce Fernández won the event. Virginia Esteban and Carmen Romero finished in second position.
The same happened in second and third divisions, with previous leaders capturing titles.
Generally speaking, the championships was kind of boring, becauase this format doesn't help when oe time is so ahead.
You can watch all the pictures and check the scores clicking here.
Copa de España AMF 2008
The qualification round of the Copa AMF España 2008 is underway at the Alegra Bowling Center, in Madrid.
Scores are avaiable (PDF) at the special web site of the AECB Madrid Delegation.
So many pins were knocked down the very first day. We must remember that the handicap that is going to be use in this tournament is not the usual one. But even with this differece, we have up to 4 of the 28 participants with scores over 1300. And 13 out fo 28 over 1200.
Leading the tournament is Jesus Cambronero (Galaxy( with 1339. Folowing him, just one pin behind, José Luis Ricote (Vaguada)
Qualification round will continue during the week before next Sunday's big final. Scratch winners (six qualification gamesplus 6 finales games) both in men and women divisioon, will participate, according to the rules, at the Hermosillo World Cup next fall.
I just hace one doubt. Sules says that winners "will represent Spain". But, given that Catalonia will send players to the World Cup and that the World Cupt itself is a private event organised by aprivate brand, Spanish representation will be "unoficial".
I mean, given that it is supposed that no official License will be requiered and that AECB players will be allow to play as FCBB members are.
But I am not pretty sure. By the way, the Tournament Rules are talking about "representing Spain" but they don't say at all that the Spanish nationality is a must. Could foreign players represent Spain?
I think this is not the most important thing, but I am not sure about these answers. Anyway, the Tournament itself is good new. This kind of event shouldn't dissapear of our calendars.
Scores are avaiable (PDF) at the special web site of the AECB Madrid Delegation.
So many pins were knocked down the very first day. We must remember that the handicap that is going to be use in this tournament is not the usual one. But even with this differece, we have up to 4 of the 28 participants with scores over 1300. And 13 out fo 28 over 1200.
Leading the tournament is Jesus Cambronero (Galaxy( with 1339. Folowing him, just one pin behind, José Luis Ricote (Vaguada)
Qualification round will continue during the week before next Sunday's big final. Scratch winners (six qualification gamesplus 6 finales games) both in men and women divisioon, will participate, according to the rules, at the Hermosillo World Cup next fall.
I just hace one doubt. Sules says that winners "will represent Spain". But, given that Catalonia will send players to the World Cup and that the World Cupt itself is a private event organised by aprivate brand, Spanish representation will be "unoficial".
I mean, given that it is supposed that no official License will be requiered and that AECB players will be allow to play as FCBB members are.
But I am not pretty sure. By the way, the Tournament Rules are talking about "representing Spain" but they don't say at all that the Spanish nationality is a must. Could foreign players represent Spain?
I think this is not the most important thing, but I am not sure about these answers. Anyway, the Tournament itself is good new. This kind of event shouldn't dissapear of our calendars.
Spanish Doubles Championship
A few minutes ago, the first squad of the Spanish Doubles Championshop finished. As we noticed, open the ball ver the 10th board is not a very good idea, because the reaction then is absolutely unstable.
It can hook a lot or go completely straigh. The scores shows up that the lanes are not easy at all. Leading today is Manuel Priego with 1177. In second position Pablo Morlanes (1171) and third Erwin Pascual (1168).
Tomorrow morning group II will start at 09,.00, having the second squad at 15.00. Group I will play again and noon.
Individual scores:
Doubles scores:
It can hook a lot or go completely straigh. The scores shows up that the lanes are not easy at all. Leading today is Manuel Priego with 1177. In second position Pablo Morlanes (1171) and third Erwin Pascual (1168).
Tomorrow morning group II will start at 09,.00, having the second squad at 15.00. Group I will play again and noon.
Individual scores:
Doubles scores:
jueves, 9 de octubre de 2008
October Tournaments
This post was originally published in Spanish some days ago. October is full of tournaments and championships and it's a good moment for reckoning some of them. Actually, October is underway so let's take a view.
Later this week, in Alicante (East coast) will be played the National Doubles Championship. You can find all the information, rules, schedule and oil patter here.
Next week bowlers will be so busy. In first place we have the II Trofeo Ciudad de Lugo. We posted the tournament rules long ago with the advertising poster.
But, next week too, in Madrid will be played the national qualification for the Qubica-AMF World Cup.
The tournament will be held in Alegra Bowling Center, as it was schedule duuring the summer, but with different rules. You can read all the info here. The oil patter is avaiable too, but, to be honest, we can't understand it. Probably there were some mistakes.
The Hermosillo World Cup oil patter is avaiable on the official web site, but perhaps it not easy to understand for not-pundits.
We will post the scores daily, as any other information we can find.
Last, and despite we don't have any news abut the rules, during the last week of the moment, it is supposed that in Oviedo will be played the Principado Open. As soon as possible we'll tell more.
Later this week, in Alicante (East coast) will be played the National Doubles Championship. You can find all the information, rules, schedule and oil patter here.
Next week bowlers will be so busy. In first place we have the II Trofeo Ciudad de Lugo. We posted the tournament rules long ago with the advertising poster.
But, next week too, in Madrid will be played the national qualification for the Qubica-AMF World Cup.
The tournament will be held in Alegra Bowling Center, as it was schedule duuring the summer, but with different rules. You can read all the info here. The oil patter is avaiable too, but, to be honest, we can't understand it. Probably there were some mistakes.
The Hermosillo World Cup oil patter is avaiable on the official web site, but perhaps it not easy to understand for not-pundits.
We will post the scores daily, as any other information we can find.
Last, and despite we don't have any news abut the rules, during the last week of the moment, it is supposed that in Oviedo will be played the Principado Open. As soon as possible we'll tell more.
Report and pictures of the Barcelona IBPSIA seminar
Acamos de subir a la web una pequeña crónica de Carlos Velasco sobre el curso de la IBPSIA (International Bowling Pro Shop and Instructors Association) al que fueron él y William Medellí hace dos semanas en Barcelona.
It has been posted, together with some pictures, both in Spanish and English, on the NEWS section of LosRascadores.com,
Está colgada, junto a algunas fotos del seminario, en español y en inglés, en LosRascadores.com, en la columa de la derecha de novedades.
It has been posted, together with some pictures, both in Spanish and English, on the NEWS section of LosRascadores.com,
Está colgada, junto a algunas fotos del seminario, en español y en inglés, en LosRascadores.com, en la columa de la derecha de novedades.
Schedule and oil pattern for the National Doubles Championship
You can already check the rules, schedule and oil pattern of the forthcoming National Doubles Champions on the web sites of the Spanish Bowling Federation and the Valencian Bowling Federation
Our information is that the oil pattern won't be the same used some weeks in the same bowling center for the Semana del Bowling del Club Costablanca.The oil distance is now 38 feet instead of 37, and the total ammount is around 19 ml. The bowling center staff has said the will try to keep the backends as cleas as posible in each squad.
We wish it will work, At least we are noticing some effots, both int he organization and the bowling center, for fixing previous mistakes.
We will arrive there on Friday nigh for starting competition on Saturday morning. If we can find some free time between trips, squads, lunch time, rest etc, we'll post results and news.
Good luck to all participants !
Our information is that the oil pattern won't be the same used some weeks in the same bowling center for the Semana del Bowling del Club Costablanca.The oil distance is now 38 feet instead of 37, and the total ammount is around 19 ml. The bowling center staff has said the will try to keep the backends as cleas as posible in each squad.
We wish it will work, At least we are noticing some effots, both int he organization and the bowling center, for fixing previous mistakes.
We will arrive there on Friday nigh for starting competition on Saturday morning. If we can find some free time between trips, squads, lunch time, rest etc, we'll post results and news.
Good luck to all participants !
martes, 7 de octubre de 2008
Analysys of the Sport Project
I have just posted on LosRascadores.com my analysis of the Sport Project of the Spanish Bowling Federation. This piece is just my opinion. Not all Los Rascadores do we share all of the opinions expressed here.
In this paper I try to explain what the worst flaws of the Project are. A Project that, instead resolvind doubts, let to may thing on the air
What do you thing about it? And about the ranking?
In this paper I try to explain what the worst flaws of the Project are. A Project that, instead resolvind doubts, let to may thing on the air
What do you thing about it? And about the ranking?
Reflections on the last tournament (Bilbao)
I have already posted my report-reflection on the last tournament. You can read it on the NEWS section of LosRascadores.com (Spanish only, sorry)
Everytime I do this kind of report doubts come to me: is it to long? is it to short? Anobody can give me and advice? Normally I prefer posting this stuff on the web and not in the blog itself. Blog posts should be always as short as possible and link up to more information.
But, given that I am wondering what do you prefer. Longer or shorter pieces? With more facts or opinion? Giving a general overview or just talking about specific players?
We accept (and pray for) any suggestion for forthcoming reports.
Regarding the tournament itself, do you have any comment?
Everytime I do this kind of report doubts come to me: is it to long? is it to short? Anobody can give me and advice? Normally I prefer posting this stuff on the web and not in the blog itself. Blog posts should be always as short as possible and link up to more information.
But, given that I am wondering what do you prefer. Longer or shorter pieces? With more facts or opinion? Giving a general overview or just talking about specific players?
We accept (and pray for) any suggestion for forthcoming reports.
Regarding the tournament itself, do you have any comment?
Grande Sergio!
Serge Frouvelle, even it remains 3 frames for finishing the game, is already the winner of the V Memorial Luis Seisas.
After a strong end on the semifinal round, with a high last game of 258, as he often does, "Sergio" defeated Juan Carlos Calva with an amazing 276 game an, on the championship match, defeteaded Santiago Fernández as well, with "just" 245.
Grande Sergio!
You can check the final round scores here.
We are leaving now the bowling center. We hace a road trip so I will put a more complet repport tonight Sorry for beeing so plain now but I must harry up, the car is leaving!
After a strong end on the semifinal round, with a high last game of 258, as he often does, "Sergio" defeated Juan Carlos Calva with an amazing 276 game an, on the championship match, defeteaded Santiago Fernández as well, with "just" 245.
Grande Sergio!
You can check the final round scores here.
We are leaving now the bowling center. We hace a road trip so I will put a more complet repport tonight Sorry for beeing so plain now but I must harry up, the car is leaving!
lunes, 6 de octubre de 2008
Cut in Bilbao
The cut, here in Bilbao, was finally 1286. Not as high as we thought, but high in anycase. The first guy out of the finals is Felipe Redondo, with 1286 too.
You can check the scores here.
It's very surprising noticing that "regular finalist" like Erwin Pascual, Mark Castillo, marco Vinicio, William Medellín or Diego de la Barrera missed the cut. Some of theme were close by and others not, but it's curious that they won't bowl tomorrow.
In the last squad, Alejandro Arjonilla was impressive, with 1328 including a 170 in the last game. So was Timo Moran. Tino (Omerta Club), was 173 over in the first 3 games, with a high of 278. He had some problems adjusting on the new pair, but finally he managed his cushion and finished with 1338.
Finals will start tomorrow morning at 09.00 Good luck to all the finalist!!
You can check the scores here.
It's very surprising noticing that "regular finalist" like Erwin Pascual, Mark Castillo, marco Vinicio, William Medellín or Diego de la Barrera missed the cut. Some of theme were close by and others not, but it's curious that they won't bowl tomorrow.
In the last squad, Alejandro Arjonilla was impressive, with 1328 including a 170 in the last game. So was Timo Moran. Tino (Omerta Club), was 173 over in the first 3 games, with a high of 278. He had some problems adjusting on the new pair, but finally he managed his cushion and finished with 1338.
Finals will start tomorrow morning at 09.00 Good luck to all the finalist!!
Scores untill the last squad
The last squad of the V Memorial Luis Seisas is going to start inmediately, and the cut is up to 1275 pins. It's true that the lanes are not difficult at all, but the cut perhaps won't be over 1300. Between the curre 1275 and 1304 we have 8 spots, so..
Serge Frouvelle (France) after his 1340 of the second squad has just finished with an impressive 1415, just 5 pins far from the best reentry. And, on the last game, he let twice the 7-10 split!!
If you are luck enough of not beeing on a weird pair, will find the lanes pretty easy. The reaction is exteme on the very first frames, right, but not as bad as I feared and not as hard as I remembered from my last year experience. And the pins, as we supossed, seems fakes..
I had a very good start (190-237-232-215), but I got lost and couldn't manage my breaks so finished just 10 over. Bad business because I was there!
The most important thing is not failing in one game. 190 is ok, but 150... William Medellín had a couple of 230's and a high game of 267 and finished just 55 over. It's easy to link up strikes, but leaving splits as well if you don't manage speed and lenght.
Needing 1310 is pretty tough recovering from a 160. So hard.
The last squad is full too. I am playing now so please just wait for the final score when I finish
Serge Frouvelle (France) after his 1340 of the second squad has just finished with an impressive 1415, just 5 pins far from the best reentry. And, on the last game, he let twice the 7-10 split!!
If you are luck enough of not beeing on a weird pair, will find the lanes pretty easy. The reaction is exteme on the very first frames, right, but not as bad as I feared and not as hard as I remembered from my last year experience. And the pins, as we supossed, seems fakes..
I had a very good start (190-237-232-215), but I got lost and couldn't manage my breaks so finished just 10 over. Bad business because I was there!
The most important thing is not failing in one game. 190 is ok, but 150... William Medellín had a couple of 230's and a high game of 267 and finished just 55 over. It's easy to link up strikes, but leaving splits as well if you don't manage speed and lenght.
Needing 1310 is pretty tough recovering from a 160. So hard.
The last squad is full too. I am playing now so please just wait for the final score when I finish
Fridays' results and Saturday's report
Finally here we are. After a short but early riser trip I can already upload not just the results, but some extra info as well. I hope it helps all our readers that are not yet or won't be at all here in Bilbao.
First of all, the scores.
As we can see, the cut will be high. There are four more squads today and right now it is in 1228 (as it was in Coruña a few weeks ago). And 150 more squads to be count yet..
The oil pattern is, or at least seems, the same of the last year. That's it, mid oil ammount (18,64 ml) but a very strong backend reaction. Especially in the first game, when players with more revs (Rascadores!!) has lots of problems to hit the pocket regularly.
Fortunately, it takes some times but the reaccion gets slow. It is still necessary using pearl balls and high speed, but is not as bad as before.
146 players have already bowled and 45 of them are over par (with handicap) and 16 of them over 1300.
However, something strange happens. Only Aitor Seisas, in the top 8, has 10 or less of handicap. It's weird because, normally, with easy lane conditions high average bowlers (0 handicap) use to take up the first places.
Actually, there are 7 of them among the top 24. The first one is Javi Moreno, with 1336. The pins over here are really soft so it happens that with good shoots the ball hits to hard and you can leave solid 7-8-910's
I'm not prety sure of why it happens. I'll check out this squad and I'm bowling on the next one and will tell you why top bowlers are not scoring high enough with some field-work.
By the moment we can report that Daniel Machos has a very strong stat, with 230 and 248. He was a little bit afraid during practice time because his reaction was too hard (he wish having my Cherry Vibe), but rich now it's ok and he is performing pretty well. He's playing the third arrow and, during this 4th game, his reaction is smooth. Outcome? 234 for him. Starting with 712 is always a gret business. As it is a 278 game. Tito Cuevas opened with the front nine but let a solid 10 pin frustrated his 300's expectatives.
UPDATE: MASSIVE TITO CUEVAS
His performance is unbeliavable. This 278 on the third game was excelents, sure, but he had 234 and 257 as well, so he is 175 over par. By the moment...
Following him there some other players, leaded by Machón (+140), José Luis Ricote (+50) and Carlos Sánchez Garnica (+47). All of them scratch, of course.
The lanes look pretty much under control now. It's may be just an illusions, because it's obvious that we are not talking about tough conditios. But now the ball has more lenght and a smooth reaction, not having a 90º-turn at 50 feet.
THE SCORES
I have already uploaded the PDF with the last score. Fantastic Tito Cuevas, leader os the squad with 1390 and Machon's 1361.
I am gonna play now so don't wait any more comments untill the squad ends.
First of all, the scores.
As we can see, the cut will be high. There are four more squads today and right now it is in 1228 (as it was in Coruña a few weeks ago). And 150 more squads to be count yet..
The oil pattern is, or at least seems, the same of the last year. That's it, mid oil ammount (18,64 ml) but a very strong backend reaction. Especially in the first game, when players with more revs (Rascadores!!) has lots of problems to hit the pocket regularly.
Fortunately, it takes some times but the reaccion gets slow. It is still necessary using pearl balls and high speed, but is not as bad as before.
146 players have already bowled and 45 of them are over par (with handicap) and 16 of them over 1300.
However, something strange happens. Only Aitor Seisas, in the top 8, has 10 or less of handicap. It's weird because, normally, with easy lane conditions high average bowlers (0 handicap) use to take up the first places.
Actually, there are 7 of them among the top 24. The first one is Javi Moreno, with 1336. The pins over here are really soft so it happens that with good shoots the ball hits to hard and you can leave solid 7-8-910's
I'm not prety sure of why it happens. I'll check out this squad and I'm bowling on the next one and will tell you why top bowlers are not scoring high enough with some field-work.
By the moment we can report that Daniel Machos has a very strong stat, with 230 and 248. He was a little bit afraid during practice time because his reaction was too hard (he wish having my Cherry Vibe), but rich now it's ok and he is performing pretty well. He's playing the third arrow and, during this 4th game, his reaction is smooth. Outcome? 234 for him. Starting with 712 is always a gret business. As it is a 278 game. Tito Cuevas opened with the front nine but let a solid 10 pin frustrated his 300's expectatives.
UPDATE: MASSIVE TITO CUEVAS
His performance is unbeliavable. This 278 on the third game was excelents, sure, but he had 234 and 257 as well, so he is 175 over par. By the moment...
Following him there some other players, leaded by Machón (+140), José Luis Ricote (+50) and Carlos Sánchez Garnica (+47). All of them scratch, of course.
The lanes look pretty much under control now. It's may be just an illusions, because it's obvious that we are not talking about tough conditios. But now the ball has more lenght and a smooth reaction, not having a 90º-turn at 50 feet.
THE SCORES
I have already uploaded the PDF with the last score. Fantastic Tito Cuevas, leader os the squad with 1390 and Machon's 1361.
I am gonna play now so don't wait any more comments untill the squad ends.
Sport project
Despite it comes too late, here it is the Sport Project (Proyecto Deportivo) of the Spanish Bowling for the current season.
What's that? Basically the project outlines the season's tournaments and the way the National Ranking will be form. That's it, the requierements in games, points, average, minimum etc
You can read the 6-pages circular on the Federation's site.
What's that? Basically the project outlines the season's tournaments and the way the National Ranking will be form. That's it, the requierements in games, points, average, minimum etc
You can read the 6-pages circular on the Federation's site.
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